On March 28, 2003 after reading many, many upsetting ugly postings made by Ilena Rosenthal about Andrew Langer in the alt.support.breast-implant newsgroup, I posted the following to Ilena Rosenthal, on the alt.support.breast-implant newsgroup: Post #15 "I keep looking for something the least covert in Andrew's posts that specifically argues that "silicone is good" or denigrates implant victims injured.  I've been off the board for some time, but nothing I've read since I've started reading again makes the fur stand up on the back of my neck.  I guess I just don't get it." Coleah Well, my simple query brought the creation of a  very unprofessional webpage (hosted on the non-profit website  Humantics Foundation) of which Ilena Rosenthal is its Director: http://humanticsfoundation.com/coleah.htm   including the following text, which some people said sounded like a funeral eulogy:                                                        "Coleah, more than you know, I miss our long term friendship, and feeling in alignment with the woman I knew you to be before ... the peacemaker. I remember first receiving this photo of you, and seeing the enormity of your beauty. I will always appreciate the first 7 years here on alt.support.breast-implant with you. For the vast majority of the time your presence was always felt ... and you created and protected the Charter of keeping this alt.support.breast-implant. You were very instrumental in the past years in keeping this board from becoming overrun by the silicone manufacturers influence.  You were the best. You'd become burned out sometimes, or ill, or sick of someone, or of everyone, and you'd take a needed and deserved break ... but you'd always return . as the peacemaker ... pacifier. **Since then, after it was apparent that I'd grown sick of  her, Ilena's syrup-dripping expression altered to: LOL ... Coleah ... the official ASBI bitcher ... From the core of my heart I thank you for those years .. and for the great service you did to the women harmed by breast implants. I thank you too, for your service during the Viet Nam War .. I believe you were a true and proud and honorable soldier. God bless you for that and the work you have done in the name of Viet Nam War Veterans. **It went in short order from that soppy expression, to this:   With Penley Ayers being a trained killer and a warmonger We did not always agree, yet we were always respectful of each other and I have every intention of that continuing. **Continuing?  Short lived.....creating a shit-list webpage about me was anything but 'respectful' from the get go. One example is last year when you begged me to remove my responses to Andy and Pat and Probert and others I put on Websites. Had I not, I would have spent even more hours rehashing the rehashes ... wasting my time while they are being paid for theirs ... and I told you I would not allow them to change history. We let that topic drop. **Yet her very own solution to 'rehashing' which is being expressed by this website is the shoe on the other foot, that she screams about.  No changing history! Most often we did agree ... and thank you too, for the first Newsgroup Website on Pacifier ... I miss that too. **That remark went in short order, to this: Coleah ripped down her websites ... She makes up silly excuses ... when in fact  ... it was more work to take them down than leave them up! AND.... Keep applauding yourself Coleah ... as yours and Myrl's and other "support leaders" tear down your websites ... the manufacturers appreciate it so much. I read and cherished every word you ever wrote in our "grouplet" formed after outing Inamed's O'Leary and she who will not be named ... your viewpoint was always appreciated.   And the group hugs. Thank you for all of those. God I miss those too. It's so ugly now ... so different ... it's still hard for me to believe you have supported the newsgroup to becoming yet another bulletin board for this War. Asking a friend if they are "sniffing glue" is like your evil twin gobbled up our Coleah. While Mark Probert uses new "volcanomail" aliases daily while he posts from AOL, you say nothing at all while he fills the board with distraction, confusion ugliness and your shared Pro-War viewpoint. Yet your Pro-Human Being sisters Amanda and Marge you treat as if they were Satans, calling them names and adding confusion to the board.  I do not believe it is only your Pro-War feelings and beliefs that has changed. What my opinion is, and I know you would never admit it if it is true, is detailed in this excellent piece, The PR Secret War Against Activists.   I believe that you were approached and finally chose to be educated. If my suspicions are true, in your case alone, I hope they were very generous with you."

http://www.humanticsfoundation/aei-pnac.htm Whew! After 7 years of supporting women who, like myself, were damaged by silicone breast implants, Ilena said she believed I'd sold out to the Chemical and Pharmaceutical Cartel (what ever that is). Why? A simple question on my part brought Ilena to lament over 7 yrs when I questioned little.  Ilena expressed her dissatisfaction that I had political conflicts with two women  over the second election of George Bush.  [The conflict equated to:  Support Bush as the Commander In Chief and you are a baby killing, war lover.]  Ilena ended with her ‘insinuation’ that I was brain washed and ‘bought off’ - by some enemy organization/entity.  Yup!  She said it herself.  Ilena Rosenthal had created one of her infamous ‘shit list’ webpages, naming it coleah.htm. (That first version of the webpage has changed often through  the years). In my disbelief that she had put up a webpage about me, I responded in Post #17: “If this wasn't so funny I might take offense. I've been busy this morning doing a newsletter for a veterans group and just got flooded with emails telling me to check the newsgroup cause apparently I've received my own 'shit list' webpage! " As it turned out however, Ilena IMHO only became more wacko and vicious;  'advertising' that I had 'close' or 'joined at the hip' associations with people I didn't know from Adam at that time.  We held common points of views on issues which Ilena opposed, and apparently that lumped us all into the same category (a group which Ilena hatefully dubbed as being "Mine Enemies".) What kind of a person proudly publicizes a growing list of the many people she hates as enemies? IMHO Ilena Rosenthal can twist the most vague similarities of people into conjuring up that they are all secret agents from the same boogie man chemical or pharmaceutical cartel, being paid big bucks ....to screw up and harm society. Here Ilena advertises me as a 'trained killer' out to kill her! Ilena:  "If she finds me in person ... may God protect me, as she is a trained killer on a mission from Hell. Terry Polevoy is a terrifying man ... and although we are meeting in the Supreme Court of California to determine if my reposting a potentially libelous statement about him is actionable, my personal whereabouts are an obsession for him. Using Penley Ayers to hunt me down .. if she eliminated me from the legal equation, it could save him potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars. After his co-plaintiffs lost to me, Penley Ayers joined their hunt to locate me." I think Ilena Rosenthal is a nutcase. Are you getting the picture???????? Tis' true I wanted to locate her (along with dozens of others for a mirade of reasons yet to be revealed).  Tis' true that Ilena Rosenthal had an unsatisfied court Judgment against her since 2001.  Tis' true the man she owed the money to assigned collection rights for that Judgment to me.  Tis' true that I filed an Lien against any financial awards Ilena was to receive in yet another lawsuit. Tis' true another Lien against her award took priority over the Lien I filed.  Tis' NOT TRUE  that I wanted to 'eliminate her' as a trained killer.  That is very obvious to any non-hysterical, rational thinking people, and also to my fellow former U.S.  Marines. Like I said..... I think Ilena Rosenthal is a nutcase.